u-> Area: 001
u-> Date: Tue 12 Dec 93 18:17
u-> From: Alek Hidell
u-> To:   urisko
u-> Subj: watch your asses around aristotle
u->
u->  * At 17:22 on 12-11-93 urisko proclaimed to ALL MEMBERS:
u->
u-> ok dudez here's the skinny on how bl went down. tm told me aristotle/
u-> nuke sold him out to the feds to save his own ass. i didn't believe
u-> it, but get this, i went to see bl in county today and he verified it.
u-> the feds said 'unidentified informant' but bl got a look at the sheet.
u-> 3 names on it, 2 arresting feds and john buchanan. that's right dudez,
u-> aristotle is a fucken narc. bl is mighty pissed i can tell ya. the pd
u-> asked for an identity disclosure but the prosecution objected on the
u-> grounds that 'the informant's life would be endangered'. don't ya just
u-> know it dudez. here's the clincher. a wise-ass fed was boasting about
u-> how they have a mole in the underground and they get all the goss and
u-> any names they need with a phone call, so bl dropped the name 'john
u-> buchanan' on him and the fed looked away and shuffled his papers and
u-> said 'never heard of him'. any of you dudez believe that shit? not me.
u-> every computer fed in the country knows who john buchanan is for sure.
u-> he's a low life fucken narc dudez, there's no doubt about it.

Yo! Eurisko.

It's no good writing to "ALL MEMBERS" and flagging the message "Private".
I'm the only one who would know it was online. I re-flagged it "Public".

We all thought Pam was shining on about Aristotle being a narc back in the
fall. I said she was a bullshitter when she didn't produce the evidence
she claimed she had. So did you and Childe Roland. We owe her an apology.

I've never liked that poor white trash VirusHead sonofabitch since he first
appeared in '92. A creep who sucks up to hackers and smarms for information
on phreaking then when he's given the cold shoulder writes that hackers and
phreakers are lowlife criminals in FidoNet does not inspire my trust.

BTW Aristotle received a Dishonorable Discharge from NuKE weeks ago. NuKE
decided to take a new direction of not writing or distributing destructive
viruses. Aristotle wouldn't co-operate so Rock Steady kicked him out. He's
started his own NuKE '93 with some very nasty people.

VirusHeads are not like us. Their whole way of thinking is diametrically
opposed to ours. There's not much honor and not many standup guys in that
scene. I've been warning you all to keep away from them for years.

u-> bail is set at 250k. they let john gotti out on less. we need 10% for
u-> the bondsman. his parents can put up 6k, i can raise 11k against my
u-> life policy, that leaves 8k short. if any of you dudez can help with
u-> this it will be massively appreciated. 'speedy trial' date is set down
u-> for april for chrissake. if we don't spring him he goes to leavenworth
u-> or some fed pisshole until trial. not fucken good dudez. call me voice
u-> if you can help. this is urgent. urisko.

I tried calling you last night to tell you I would handle it. Some chicano
"non habla inglese" old woman picked up. She didn't know your new number.
The operator said you're unlisted. This makes it very hard to call you.

I took my attorney down to bail Don this morning. They were processing his
release papers when we arrived. All charges had been dropped. He'd signed a
flase arrest waiver before we arrived. My man flipped about that but Don
said he would have signed a confession to crucifying Christ to get out of
there. I don't blame him. It's an evil place.

We went downtown with him to collect his computer gear from Treasury this
afternoon. They flipped when I triggered the metal detector then refused to
surrender my gun. Upstairs was like watching LA Law on TV. Don asked for
the case file. The T-Men refused. My man demanded it as Attorney of Record.
They refused again. My man said he'd be back in an hour with a Court Order
and if the file was not produced intact he'd have them up on charges. They
called a Supervisor who said the case was closed and quoted some legal crap
about "expeditious destruction of material damaging to an innocent party."
They argued legal crapola with my man for ten minutes then they took us in
back to witness that they put the whole file thru the shredder. We didn't
get to see a Godddam thing in it.

Something smells fishy here. Don didn't cut a deal with the Federales. They
just dropped all the charges and kicked him loose with no explanation. My
attorney says they wouldn't destroy a file so "expeditiously" unless there
was something in it they didn't want us to see. Like a witness's name for
instance. He said dropping the charges and closing the case was the only
legal way they could deny him access to the file. They were determined to
keep something secret. The computer record appears to have been wiped too.
"Curiouser and curiouser," said Alek. I'll be looking into this further.

Leave your new number here or call me. JJ is flying down for the weekend
and Don is staying over at my place Saturday night. We've got to get the
group together for a meet on this. I don't think Aristotle knows much about
us but if he's shooting off his mouth and naming names he might trigger an
investigation which could eventually take us all down.

Alek.


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03-22-94


Hey Rod, this is the message I told you about the other day. It took
me a while to find it. I grabbed it from THE ABRAXAS CONNECTION in
New York while I was prowling around the circuit last year. ABRAXAS
isn't Vx, it's a pure hackerboard. I called back about week later,
but the number had been disconnected. Busted ??? I hope not - I know
Alek, he's a good guy.


Later.


Mik

